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Storms Supports Rossi Claim

Appendix 31 to New Energy Times Report #3

[Ed: These two messages were sent from Edmund Storms, a longtime LENR researcher, to the CMNS e-mail list. All formatting, font type and colors in Storms' message are original. New Energy Times does not necessarily agree with any of Storm's analysis; however, we present his views as an alternate technical opinion in support of Rossi's claims.]


Subj:   CMNS: Rossi claims
Date:   7/2/2011
From:  storms2@ix.netcom.com
To:       cmns@googlegroups.com

A variety of ways the Rossi claims might be wrong have been suggested. Let's examine each. The following values are used: 

Cp (H2O at 65°) = 4.18 J/g-deg ,
enthalpy of vaporization @ 100°C = 2.27 kJ/g.

1. Not all of the water is turned to steam. 

 If applied power is making all of steam, the following would be observed.

Applied power = 745 watt
Flow rate = 7 liter/hr = 1.94 g/sec
Power to heat water to 100° = 73°*4.18*1.94 = 592 watt
Power to make steam = 745 - 592 = 153 watt
Amount of steam produced = 153/2270 = 0.07g/sec out of 1.94 g/sec = 3.4 % of water flow.

The chimney would fill with water through which steam would bubble.  The extra water would flow into the hose and block any steam from leaving.  As the water cooled in the hose, the small amount of steam would quickly condense back to water.  Consequently, the hose would fill with water that would flow out the exit at the same rate as the water entered the e-Cat. 

CONCLUSION: No steam would be visible at the end of the hose, which is not consistent with observation.

2. The steam contains water droplets, i.e, was not dry.

Power to heat water to 100° = 592 watt
Power to vaporize all water = 1.94 * 2270 = 4404 watt
Total  = 4997 watt if all water is vaporized
Excess power = 4249 watt

According to the attached link, wet steam contains 5% by mass of water. 

Power to vaporize 95% of water = 4183 watt
Excess power = 3736 watt

CONCLUSION: Significant excess power is being made regardless of how dry the steam may be.

3. Energy is stored in the apparatus that is being released during the demonstration.

Assume e-Cat contained 2 kg of material having an average heat capacity equal to that of copper.  Copper has a heat capacity of 0.385 J/g*K.
Assume steam is made for 15 min, i.e. the e-Cat remains above 100° C during this time.

During 15 min, 1750 g of water is converted to steam = 1.94*15*60*2270 = 3963 kJ
Applied energy = 745 *60*15 = 672 kJ
Amount of energy that has to be stored = 3291 kJ
Energy stored in Cu/degree = 2000*.385 = 770 K/°
Initial temperature of e-Cat = about 4400°

The e-cat would have to weight over 20 kg to contain enough energy to make steam for only 15 min. after being heated initially to over 500° C.

CONCLUSION: The e-Cat cannot retain enough energy to account for the observed behavior during cooling from high temperatures.

4. The flow rate is wrong by a factor of 2.

Power to heat water to 100° = 296 watt
Power to vaporize all water = 2204 watt
Total  = 2500 watt if all water is vaporized
Excess power =  1752 watt

CONCLUSION: Excess power is being generated even if the flow rate is misrepresented by a factor of 2.
BASIC CONCLUSION:  None of the plausible assumptions are consistent with the claim for excess energy being wrong.


At 09:56 AM 7/8/2011, Edmund Storms wrote:

I would like to remind Dr Gazzoni that skepticism about the Rossi claims is just as much based on faith and religion as are the beliefs that the claims are real. Both views are based on selected information and a personal interpretation there of.  Time will tell which belief is more in contact with reality.


Brief Biography of Edmund Storms:
Edumund Storms was trained as a radiochemist, and he worked at Los Alamos National Laboraory for many years. While there, he was one of the first LENR researchers to claim evidence of tritium production in a LENR experiment. Storms worked with Jed Rothwell and started the LENR-CANR.org Web site to promote "cold fusion." Since retiring from Los Alamos, Storms has worked independently in his home laboratory. At one time, he was employed by Lewis Larsen of Lattice Energy, LLC, and Storms now works with Brian Scanlan of KivaLabs.


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